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I bought 5 pairs of uniform pants for my (skinny-average build) 4th grade son. They were difficult to find stocked in the store. Had to return several times, and it wasn't even during peak uniform season. They were cheaper in store than online. Go figure? Anyway, since buying them in November during a Black Friday sale, by the time February and March came around, those pants have holes in the knees despite having reinforced knees. I haven't had this problem in the past, not even when he wore the slim leg type of pants. They usually lasted the whole school year. Disappointed they don't guarantee uniform pants.